Malay and Indonesian came from the same language of the ports, and the two countries even agreed a common spelling system. A Malay speaker reads Indonesian without effort. That is exactly why the difference is easy to dismiss and easy to get wrong. So rather than argue about it, we ran the same Danish sentences into both and put the two results side by side, unedited. You can see where the line falls yourself.
Real output from the same path a live room uses. Nothing was chosen after the fact and nothing has been tidied.
Your speaker says, in Danish: Omskærelsen er ikke den ydre på kroppen, men hjertets omskærelse ved Ånden.
Sunat itu bukan yang lahiriah pada tubuh, melainkan sunat hati oleh Roh.
Identical to the Malay except for one word in the middle: the connector meaning but rather. This is the version an Indonesian speaker expects.
Sunat itu bukan yang lahiriah pada tubuh, tetapi sunat hati oleh Roh.
One word different, and it is the ordinary Malay connector rather than the Indonesian one. A word for word engine, incidentally, would have landed this sentence on the surgical procedure instead of on Romans 2. Both of ours kept it a figure about the heart.
Now a Danish saying that means nothing anywhere else: Men der er ingen ko på isen.
Tapi sebenarnya tidak ada masalah sekarang.
But there is really no problem now. The Danish literally says there is no cow on the ice, which means there is nothing to worry about. The cow is gone in both, because the cow was never the point.
Tapi sebenarnya tak perlu risau.
But really there is no need to worry. Same meaning, different sentence: the Malay uses the short everyday negative and the ordinary Malay verb for worrying. Nobody translated one from the other. Both were made from the Danish.
And the one that shows the church vocabulary: Af nåde er I frelst ved tro, og det skyldes ikke jer selv, det er Guds gave.
Sebab karena kasih karunia kamu diselamatkan oleh iman. Itu bukan hasil usahamu sendiri, melainkan pemberian Allah.
Grace is a settled two word term in Indonesian church language, spelled the Indonesian way.
Kerana kasih kurnia, kamu diselamatkan melalui iman, dan itu bukan hasil usaha kamu sendiri, tetapi pemberian Allah.
The same term for grace, spelled the Malay way, and the possessive written as a separate word rather than glued on. Three different choices in one sentence, none of them large, all of them the kind a reader registers without noticing they have.
Two standards, one root. Neither output is a translation of the other. Read the Indonesian page for the other half of the story.
There is a right answer and it is not a technical one.
You ask. A Malaysian or Singaporean guest may well say either is fine, and mean it. A Malay speaker who was schooled in Malay will still hear Indonesian as the neighbouring standard, the way a British reader hears American spelling: perfectly clear, and visibly not theirs.
The reason we list them separately, rather than folding one into the other, is the same reason we list them separately for Czech and Slovak, or for Hindi and Urdu. Mutual understanding is not the same as sameness. Handing somebody the near neighbour is a decision, and it should be a decision they made.
It also costs you nothing to offer both. Every pass carries as many languages as your guests need, so a service can run Malay and Indonesian at the same time and let each person pick. The language count is not a price lever here and never will be.
One of the most widely spread language families on earth, and Malay sits near the middle of it.
Malay belongs to the Austronesian family, which stretches across an extraordinary distance: the languages of the Philippines are relatives, so is the language of Madagascar off the coast of Africa, and so are many across the Pacific. It is one of the great migrations in human history, and it happened by sea.
Malay itself became the language of the trade routes through the archipelago, which is why it was later available to be adopted as a national language by more than one country. A language that everyone used with strangers turned out to be the fairest thing to build on.
Structurally it is a relief after European grammar. Verbs do not change for tense. Nouns do not change for number. If you need a plural you say the word twice, which is why bahasa-bahasa in the output above simply means languages. The complexity sits elsewhere, in prefixes and suffixes that change what a verb is doing, and in the politeness system.
What you get from us is the Latin alphabet, which is what school, print and screens use. It is not the only way Malay has been written.
Before the Latin alphabet, Malay was written in Jawi: an Arabic based script adapted with extra letters for sounds Arabic does not have. Jawi carried centuries of Malay writing, including the religious literature, and it runs right to left.
It has not disappeared. Jawi still appears on signage and in religious and ceremonial use, and there are periodic pushes to teach it more widely. But daily Malay life, and every phone screen, runs on the Latin alphabet.
Practically, that means Malay captions in MulingStream behave like any European language on a screen: left to right, ordinary spacing, no special layout needed. If your congregation ever needs the older script, tell us. Nothing changes on a list until a real congregation is waiting on it.
Malay has one of the older Bible translation traditions in Asia, and one live question that a European church should know about before it comes up.
The word for God. Malay speaking Christians use Allah, as Indonesian and Arabic speaking Christians do. In Malaysia the Christian use of that word has been the subject of legal dispute, which is not the case in Indonesia. Your Malay speaking guest may be entirely used to it or may carry some caution about it. It is not your argument to have, and it is worth knowing it exists before somebody mentions it.
Beyond that one word, Malay Christian vocabulary is settled and stable: grace, faith, salvation and the Spirit all have forms that a Malay speaking believer expects, and you can see them in our output above. Where you need to be careful is with anything particular to your own church. Your fellowship's name, your people's names, the phrase your congregation always uses: put them in Keywords once and they are used exactly, every service.
Three separate questions, and Malay answers yes to all three.
A Malay speaker can preach or read and the whole room follows in its own languages. One of the 81 languages that can be the source.
On a guest's own phone or on the screen at the front. One of 182 languages that can be read, in ordinary left to right layout.
Four Malay voices, so a room can choose a man or a woman. One of 81 languages that can be listened to rather than read.
This site is published in Malay too, which is true of only a minority of the 183 languages we work with. A Malay speaker can read the whole of it, including the pricing and the help, before they ask you anything.
No plural endings. Repeat the noun instead, which is why the word for languages in our output is simply the word for language, twice. Simple to read, and a trap for anything that counts words rather than reading them.
Malay marks when something happened with a separate word, or with nothing at all if the context is clear. A tool that expects the tense to live inside the verb will keep guessing, and it will keep guessing differently.
Malaysia and Indonesia settled on a shared spelling system, so the two look more alike on paper than they sound in the mouth. The words carried on drifting. That is precisely why an agreed alphabet does not make two standards one language.
Malay or Indonesian. Some will not mind, some will, and the question takes four seconds. Do not decide it from a passport or a surname.
Phone camera, pick the language, done. No app, no account, no sign up.
There is a Malay voice, and listening beats reading for forty minutes. A basket of cheap wired earphones by the door is the best money a welcoming team ever spends.
They will understand it. Whether they want it is a different question, and it is theirs to answer. Since running both at once costs nothing extra, the simplest thing is to offer both and let each guest choose.
The standard written Malay used in school, print and broadcasting, which is the register a sermon would be delivered in anyway. It is understood across all three, and it avoids the very local everyday forms that a listener outside one country might not share.
The lines above are a fair sample and they reached for the settled church words rather than the everyday ones. What no system can guess is what belongs to you: names, your fellowship's own phrases, the wording your congregation always uses. Those go in Keywords.
Yes. Malay can be the language on the stage as well as one of the languages in the pews, so a visiting Malay speaker reaches the whole room at the same moment without switching to English.
Every pass carries as many languages as your guests need, and unlimited listeners.